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| + Solid Snake | May 25 2016, 02:32 PM Post #1 |
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I wanna know if Whis could use his powers in a fight basing off the fact he's shown to use em in the series? The powers he displayed are: Matter Manipulation - In Battle of Gods film, he used this when he got into Bulma's ship via the glass I saw. Time Manipulation - In RoF film and Super, he's stated to be able to rewind time back to 3 minutes prior. Not sure what this is called but Vegeta claims he tried to attack Whis but couldn't because of his strange ki (this prompted Whis to reveal he was Beerus's teacher in Super). Couldn't be God ki that he was referring to since he was able to attack Beerus, pre and during his mutation, who also has God ki. Dimensional Storage - The power to store objects in an unknown space and resummon them at will. Shown in Super when Whis did so on Beerus's lunch. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Dimensional_Storage Teleportation - Whis shown he can teleport others a fair distance as shown when he teleported, Goku and Vegeta, from the outside to inside Beerus's room in Super. Portal Opening - Whis can conjure up a portal which sucks objects into another dimension akin to the rosat almost. Shown in Super. Healing - Was able to heal Goku and Vegeta after they trained in that dimension he put them in. Do you guys or girls think he could or couldn't use most of these in confrontational means? Why or why not? Edit: Poll added. Edited by Solid Snake, May 25 2016, 02:36 PM.
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| Darker | May 25 2016, 02:34 PM Post #2 |
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No, because we haven't seen him use them in combat yet, and I doubt he'd summon random objects or weapons in mid battle just to make the fight easier or win. |
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| lazerbem | May 26 2016, 11:18 AM Post #3 |
 
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No, that would be extrapolation on a rather large scale, and that just doesn't work. If we did that, then all Harry Potter characters would just use transfiguration spells in combat to render their opponents helpless, but they don't. |
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| Dankness Lava | May 26 2016, 02:55 PM Post #4 |
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I don't see any reason to believe he couldn't. Maybe it's just not his style. He seems like he prefers fighting nobly over cheap wins involving those methods. |
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| Notaka | May 26 2016, 03:25 PM Post #5 |
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He's never had a fight ever since we first saw him. I'm pretty sure he'll use his powers once he's caught in a serious fight. |
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| + Solid Snake | May 26 2016, 05:15 PM Post #6 |
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I recently saw Firestorm, on DC's Legends of Tomorrow, transmutated a Nazi's gun, during combat, to dust. That's 1 for combat, 1 for non-combat. |
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| Darker | May 26 2016, 05:22 PM Post #7 |
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...How is that relevant to this thread? |
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| + Solid Snake | May 26 2016, 06:12 PM Post #8 |
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How's Lazer's relevant? Last time I checked this ain't no damn Harry Potter thread. 😐 |
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| Tinny | May 26 2016, 06:23 PM Post #9 |
 
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Because they supposedly have the capacity to do so but don't and thus it should not be assumed that a character will. He gave you a perfectly legitimate answer and you seem to be getting upset, why? What's your deal? |
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| + Solid Snake | May 26 2016, 06:37 PM Post #10 |
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And I gave him a legit answer to show that some characters use broken abilities as oppose to wizards that don't use em. Why will I be upset? I didn't make any deals as of yet. |
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| lazerbem | May 26 2016, 07:35 PM Post #11 |
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That's not how it works though. We don't assume that they have something just because they might, we start at null and then add things on based on what we see. Most characters don't use their max potential of their abilities, and we do not give them the benefit of the doubt for them having more because it's unlikely the writers will give them more. This is what makes them character fights and not just power fights. We don't just assume characters will act out the very maximum of their powers unless it's been shown. For instance, do you think any water bender can control someone's blood? With the logic that we should apply maximum extrapolation, all hydrokinetics should be able to move around humans like puppets, but this is very often not the case. |
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| + Solid Snake | May 26 2016, 07:43 PM Post #12 |
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I'm not saying Whis can do more then what's shown. Take the portal creation for example, what did it do when he created it? It sucked in two people Goku and Vegeta. Can we assume he can suck in two objects or more? I think it's very fair we do since we seen him do so. Another, matter manipulation, Whis can open glass to a very wide degree that he can fit through it (his sister's did more but I don't know if this applies but he also made, what she made, better), shouldn't he be able to form swords or something like many others in the series did? I think so, why not? |
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| lazerbem | May 26 2016, 08:21 PM Post #13 |
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Because capability is not the same thing as intelligence to use it or willingness to use it. If that were the case, then any one who can teleport anything could just telefrag their enemies |
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| Tinny | May 26 2016, 08:36 PM Post #14 |
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To be fair that might kill them as well or something, but overall yes, capability does not equate to a willingness to use it. For all we know Whis might have a strict honor code against using those tricks in combat. Or it might be like Nappa who despite having a handy city busting attack handy never thinks to use it in an actual fight, seriously even if it didn't hurt Goku it's worth a try, should at least obscure the area, but nope, we never see him use it. Or Goku who could probably IT inside his opponent if he wanted to and just telefrag them, (but doesn't). Honestly I Feel like whenever it goes like this, people have completely forgotten about and don't care about the character in question, and merely think of themselves with the character's powers and abilities. This probably (hopefully) isn't the case but I can't help but feel like the character him/herself is a mere afterthought when the debates go like this, and that they've stopped thinking about "him winning" and started thinking about "me winning." Edited by Tinny, May 26 2016, 08:39 PM.
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| + Solid Snake | May 26 2016, 09:59 PM Post #15 |
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It's not about willingness, it's the fact we know he can do it. Nappa could've used it but his city busying attack isn't even "broken" and wouldn't do any damage to Goku. Like Goku casually matched one of Nappa's best attack with a half a***'d Kamehameha. And that best attack was much more deadly then some welcoming city buster. Tin - Goku has a track record of NOT going in people via IT, safe to assume he simply can't do so. Whis on the other hand has shown he can do the stuff listed but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be able use em during a fight. |
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